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They had associates who roamed the room goiing from table to table. The dealers in most single deck games count the cards and shuffle when it becomes a player advantage situation. Originally Posted by Checkmite I'm going to surmise that the point of this ban isn't that the casino is afraid of being bilked on a large scale by Brown at the table; I think they're more concerned about him doing some kind of hidden camera segment as part of one of his shows for instance, or exploiting the casino in some other kind of indirect way. Under those rules, I don't see how anyone could cheat via sleight of hand. I'm going to surmise that the point of this ban isn't that the casino is afraid of being bilked on a large scale by Brown at the table; I think they're more concerned about him doing some kind of hidden camera segment as part of one of his shows for instance, or exploiting the casino in some other kind of indirect way. Find More Posts by Cain. It's that conservatives have become more intolerable. In a hand dealt game, there are some shenanigans one might use, but getting caught will likely get you a trip to the local jail, and criminal charges. And the final difficulty is finding one where the dealer is not counting. Foolmewunz has just been added to the list of people who aren't complete idiots. Originally Posted by Azrael 5. Can it actually swing the odds into the players favour, rather than the house? In such contexts, any appeal to 'keep an open mind' is an appeal to prefer ignorance over knowledge" Ian Rowland. Find More Posts by Checkmite. I am not a card expert, a gambling expert, or a casino expert, but I don't think the major concern of casinos is card manipulation unless the dealer is in on it. Even if it was a trick this was long before Kreskin started eking over the line to woo , it's the kind of thing people believe mentalists and mnemonists do. I have seen this myself. Thread Tools. I believe Penn and Teller also got banned from a few Casinos back in the day. Casinos, rightly or wrongly, can ban anyone they think is counting. Welcome to the International Skeptics Forum , where we discuss skepticism, critical thinking, the paranormal and science in a friendly but lively way. Remember Me? For example, I heard that Antonio Esfandiari is allowed to play high stakes poker but is not allowed to touch the cards beyond cleanly looking at his hands and moving them forward for the dealer to muck. Anyone that wraps themselves in the Union Flag and also lives in tax exile is a [redacted]. Originally Posted by IXP. User Name. The difficult parf of counting cards is doing without getting caught. You didn't feel the least bit silly posting that? There could be truth to the idea that they feared secret camera crews. I think that if someone develops a talent for knowing the value of the cards exposed and remaining, they should be allowed to play as long as it's all between the cards and player with no external devices involved. Originally Posted by Monza. When they came to a table with a counter, he would signal a good deck, and the associate would sit down and make a few large bets. Originally Posted by Checkmite. Find More Posts by Azrael 5. Originally Posted by Garrette. I'd think that they're less concerned about him manipulating or magically changing the pips to turn a trey into an ace, but would be very concerned that he'd be an excellent counter. Any publicity is good publicity, and all that. Hokulele It's not that liberals have become less tolerant. Originally Posted by LandR. Most known magicians are welcome in casinos, afaik. IMO they've bought into to his TV persona, I doubt he can "card count" or do any special mnemonics,no more than he can hypnotize the croupier to think she's a zombie. Any of these can result in a much bigger advantage to the player than card counting, and not all require the complicity of the dealer. Find More Posts by brodski. I don't agree with this - I'm just stating the policy. Find More Posts by LandR.{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} They don't cheat and are good for business. What do you mean? FLA Pither. Kreskin was quite adept at mnemonics and once IDed a hundred or so people, by name, in the Tonight Show audience. Preemptive blacklisting, or does he actually count cards? Id say you were surmising wrongly. It's just a bit of fun trivia. Find More Posts by Foolmewunz. I don't think that I'm able to post links yet, but if you search for the following, then you'll get a 5 minute clip on Youtube: Derren Brown Mind Control Casino Channel 4. Or Posts: 7, When have magicians ever resorted to publicity stunts? Derren Brown banned from casino. Find More Posts by Garrette. The casino must be gutted by all the publicity as well. Of course it gives an advantage when you know what cards are left in the deck, however casinos are always changing things to reduce the advantage, like using more decks, burning cards , reshuffling. Generally in this type of game there is a rule that you are allowed to use only one hand on the cards, which makes such manipulations difficult, but not necessarily impossible. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest, which means you are missing out on discussing matters that are of interest to you. Mark Forums Read. No idea how genuine it was. It is 'an informed mind'. Originally Posted by Garrette I am not a card expert, a gambling expert, or a casino expert, but I don't think the major concern of casinos is card manipulation unless the dealer is in on it. Please consider registering so you can gain full use of the forum features and interact with other Members. Aren't casino's rigged up to spot card cheats and such? Yep, you heard it right. They're just SURE he's going to do something to take away their edge. Well, in any game where players are allowed to actually handle the cards such as handheld blackjack games casinos do indeed have to be concerned about various forms card manipulation, such as holding out and switching cards, or marking cards, as well as be concerned with dealers deliberately or through carelessness revealing hole cards. Click here to register today. Powered by vBulletin. Originally Posted by brodski. In the case of Brown, I'm sure it's a preemptive strike. Brown did a card counting bit and filmed part of it in a casino as part of one of his first TV shows for Channel 4, Mind Control. However, the forum now exists as an independent entity with no affiliation with or endorsement by the JREF, including the section in reference to "JREF" topics. {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}Tags card counting , derren brown , mentalism. The counter did not change his or her play at all. I had thought card counting was a major, if not the major, concern. Forum Index. Banning them is sort of like banning a bridge player who has a better memory of the cards that have been played already. And yes I know his nickname. What sort of advantage does card counting give? He is rather sneaky Now there is more evidence that there is truth to it. The team from MIT that did it so well used a new strategy for this. That would just be sad Originally Posted by Maurice Ledifficile. I don't know why I should feel anything at all. All times are GMT The time now is PM. How many decks in the shoe in a UK casino? Originally Posted by mutile. AFIK, all blackjack in the UK is dealt from a shoe, face up, and the player is not allowed to touch the cards. Registration is simple, fast and free! Originally Posted by 3point Most of what he does is traditional magic dressed up as mentalism, but he does have some very impressive memory tricks that I think actually are memory tricks.